I had a feeling this would generate some spirited discussion
FWIW I shoot against myself. I don’t care about my standings or what class I am in. As such since I hit what I was aiming at I gave myself a 5 for that bank. Had I been in an actual competition or a contender for a shoot off I would have likely acquiesced to the “official” IHMSA ruling on that bank.
IMO while in this particular case the rules would have been against me I don’t have a problem with it. What we are striving for is 40 PERFECT shots. Just putting lead on steel is only part of the equation; the right steel is just as important.
It is deer season & you are in the woods with a buck only tag. Two deer appear, a 10 point buck & a doe. You fire & hit the doe. While the shot counts as far as the doe is concerned, it does not for the game warden 200 feet to your rear.
Steve W.
Past Match Director, JCSA - Grants Pass, OR
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How would you score it is t 1 fell over before you started shooting and you did not know it untill you saw you had one bullet left and no targets left? Would it be a range alibi ? If t3 fell over while shooting t1 you would go from t2 too t4 and have the option of shooting a target on a nother bank beside you for your 5th target. I think is the range does not have the targets set in a way that you can see them they should. Some times at our range with the sun in the wrong angle you have a hard time picking up a target even with a scope. Just a new bee input.
686 wrote:How would you score it is t 1 fell over before you started shooting and you did not know it untill you saw you had one bullet left and no targets left? Would it be a range alibi ? If t3 fell over while shooting t1 you would go from t2 too t4 and have the option of shooting a target on a nother bank beside you for your 5th target. I think is the range does not have the targets set in a way that you can see them they should. Some times at our range with the sun in the wrong angle you have a hard time picking up a target even with a scope. Just a new bee input.
If one fell over on it's own before shooting started or during shooting, you would go to any available targets as your alibi. Like say, if you happened to miss one, you could use that as your alibi. If none available, just go out and reset one when Director says that it is safe.
Easy
Mike
Co-Match Director - Piedmont Sportsman Club in Gordonsville Virginia
I thought I had posted this earlier, but it didn't show up:
Chris's post on page 2 kinda mirrors what I originally said. I scored it zero since none of the targets were hit in the proper sequence. I am aware of the rule "the maximum penalty shall be two targets for each single occurrence", but does that apply to an entire bank of targets? I can't recall any past discussions or clarifications concerning this.
"So, as long as we hit five targets with five shots-------does it matter in which order they are shot ?"
"It does, but it doesn't. If you INTENTIONALLY hit 5 targets with 5 shots, you should be able to score 5 hits."
What if I INTENTIONALLY decide to shoot the targets backwards, from right to left? Since I intended to hit those targets in reverse order, should that count? I can certainly understand the frustration of hitting the wrong target and not having it count, but we DO have rules that have to be followed (and yes, there are lots of silly ones).
How about the scope shooter that lines up on number two target, instead of number one, hits it, then realizes because of the field of view limitations, he shot the wrong target. Should he get credit for that because he intentionally lined up on that target? Obviously, no one would allow that one (and again, I have NEVER done that).
I was at the match when Bob did that. Shadows in the afternoon play havoc on target visibility on the .22 side. It is unfortunate that happened, but at least I would take comfort in the fact that I hit every target I aimed at, despite what the scorecard says.
"Are you gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?"
This rule is definatly a pain, it does force one to pay attention to what you are doing. This rule has cost me dearly, in each of the last 4 internationals I have had at least one 78 thanks to a target shot out of order. It is just part of the game.
