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Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:04 pm
by Hosspower
I've been thinking about trying revolver in flop. At least small bore. Laying on my belly with arms out. The old IHMSA books I have show guys doing this.

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:35 pm
by 260 Striker
Dave, Back then they just called that shooting prone. Don't know how the term flop got started. I can't get my head pulled back far enough in flop without getting a neck ache. Are you going to try my old Ruger in the flop?

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:26 am
by ole95
There is a difference between prone and true flop i was told
I shoot prone which was popular before Creedmore
True flop (Fields flop) as I was told in OKC you shoot crossed eyed
Righthanded shooter shoots with left eye hopfully Jackie or someone will
Chime in on this and clarify

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:35 am
by Hosspower
260 Striker wrote:Dave, Back then they just called that shooting prone. Don't know how the term flop got started. I can't get my head pulled back far enough in flop without getting a neck ache. Are you going to try my old Ruger in the flop?
OK. I will be shooting prone. I am going to first try small bore with my dads single six. sweet trigger and real accurate. I will try to hold up my end of the deal. If I can do this in small bore I might try it in big bore but probably with my DW 357 maximum. Lynn, I sold your Ruger to my brother. Needed some cash. This old truck restoration is just a money pit.

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:15 am
by JACKIE40X40
ole95 wrote:There is a difference between prone and true flop i was told
I shoot prone which was popular before Creedmore
True flop (Fields flop) as I was told in OKC you shoot crossed eyed
Righthanded shooter shoots with left eye hopfully Jackie or someone will
Chime in on this and clarify
ole95 is correct on the fields Flop,I don`t do it exactly that way because it requires getting your face to close to the scope.I have to be careful
not to get dinged from the recoil even with the tank brake,or in small bore, my neck has been fused and I have 2 steel plates.I hold just far enough back to get a full view of the 36x scope.I have watched ole95 shoot, he and I are real close to the same way other than I`m a lefty.And we both like the color "red" **==

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:36 am
by JACKIE40X40
Hosspower wrote:I've been thinking about trying revolver in flop. At least small bore. Laying on my belly with arms out. The old IHMSA books I have show guys doing this.
There are some still doing it,Richard Redd used peep on peep on some of his small,and big bore guns.John Anderson is a World champion.He uses a Ruger in small bore with peep on peep,I have spotted from him he cleaned all shoot off chickens at the Internationals in 2012.
The prone has been around has long as I have,we had several doing it back in the 80`s.Jim Holden used a Dever XP 7x250 with a a max load,in a center grip stock and shot many 40`s.and he used a 30/30 Contender in production.
My first match in 78 I shot prone, with a DW 357 mag, 6 in barrel.That was the first time I had seen creedmore position,when I started back in 80 I used creedmore just to be like the others. **==

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:03 pm
by ihmsa53393
FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

For me the answer is NO. I setup an Anschutz Exemplar several years ago and shot two Matches at Lower Burrell in PA. The first score was a 39. I missed my first Ram due to not changing my sight setting. The second was a 40. Way to easy and no challenge what so ever. Have not shot Flop since and the Exemplar is a safe queen. I found out why I only shoot standing classes. Hard to master but more of a challenge.

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:30 pm
by high standard 40
ihmsa53393 wrote:FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

For me the answer is NO. I setup an Anschutz Exemplar several years ago and shot two Matches at Lower Burrell in PA. The first score was a 39. I missed my first Ram due to not changing my sight setting. The second was a 40. Way to easy and no challenge what so ever. Have not shot Flop since and the Exemplar is a safe queen. I found out why I only shoot standing classes. Hard to master but more of a challenge.
For a challenge, try Fifth Scale.

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:52 pm
by JACKIE40X40
high standard 40 wrote:
ihmsa53393 wrote:FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

For me the answer is NO. I setup an Anschutz Exemplar several years ago and shot two Matches at Lower Burrell in PA. The first score was a 39. I missed my first Ram due to not changing my sight setting. The second was a 40. Way to easy and no challenge what so ever. Have not shot Flop since and the Exemplar is a safe queen. I found out why I only shoot standing classes. Hard to master but more of a challenge.
For a challenge, try Fifth Scale.

Re: FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:56 pm
by JACKIE40X40
JACKIE40X40 wrote:
high standard 40 wrote:
ihmsa53393 wrote:FLOP GUNS, YES ON NO?

For me the answer is NO. I setup an Anschutz Exemplar several years ago and shot two Matches at Lower Burrell in PA. The first score was a 39. I missed my first Ram due to not changing my sight setting. The second was a 40. Way to easy and no challenge what so ever. Have not shot Flop since and the Exemplar is a safe queen. I found out why I only shoot standing classes. Hard to master but more of a challenge.
For a challenge, try Fifth Scale.
40`S Is what keep me coming back,I haven`t got that good yet! **==