And as far as Ruger is concerned, I don't believe you will ever see another silhouette gun from them. When they built the Maximum revolver, Gates and some of his minions praised Bill Ruger to the skies! But just a little bit later, when Dan Wesson introduced the Super Mag, Gates trashed Ruger in the pages of The Silhouette. He said he had told Ruger the case should have been made to his, Gates, original design. Dan Wesson did make their cylinder longer to accept Gates design, but nobody but Federal ever made any to Gates design. I knew then Bill Ruger would never give much thought to IHMSA after that.